Information regarding granting of 457 visas

Robert Hudson made this Freedom of Information request to Department of Home Affairs

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Dear Department of Immigration and Border Protection,

With over 8000 members, the IT Professionals Association is the peak body representing Australian IT Support Technicians and systems Administrators. We have received a number of complaints from members about being displaced by lower priced workers being bought in on 457 Visas and we are also concerned about the growth in the number of 457 Visas being awarded for IT Support and System Administration roles.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, could we please be provided with details of the 457 Visas granted over the last 18 months for the following ANZSCO Unit Groups:
- 2621 - Database and Systems Administrators
- 2631 - Computer Network Professionals
- 2632 - ICT Support and Test Engineers
- 3131 – ICT Support Technicians

The details we are seeking are:
· Descriptions of the roles that were filled
· The wages that were / are being paid
· The market testing that was done to prove that local workers were not available to fill the roles
· The names of the Companies involved and the number of 457 Visas they were granted

Yours faithfully,

Robert Hudson
President, ITPA

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Dear Mr Hudson

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Good morning Mr Hudson

On 6 April 2017, the Department received a request from you for access to documents relating to 457 Visas under the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (FOI Act).

You may be aware that an announcement has been made this week in relation to the 457 Visa Program, details of which can be found here:
http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/457-a...

I also note that data relating to the Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457) Programme is publicly available at the following link:
http://www.data.gov.au/dataset/visa-temp...

This data relates to visas granted and visa holders, and includes instructions on using Pivot Tables. The data is available for the financial years 2010-2011 up to and including 31 December 2016.

In the circumstances, we would appreciate it if you could consider the above together with the publicly available information at data.gov.au, and confirm whether you wish to continue with your FOI request. If we do not hear from you by COB Friday 28 April 2017 we will consider your request to be withdrawn and closed.

If you wish to discuss, please do not hesitate to contact us at [email address].

With kind regards
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Hudson [mailto:[FOI #3350 email]]
Sent: Thursday, 6 April 2017 11:44 AM
To: FOI
Subject: Freedom of Information request - Information regarding granting of 457 visas

Dear Department of Immigration and Border Protection,

Yours faithfully,

Robert Hudson
President, ITPA

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Dear FOI,

Thank you for your response.

We require more time to evaluate whether or not the information we seek is available elsewhere.

We will send further comment shortly.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

Dear FOI,

Thank you for your earlier reply.

The data you have provided links to does not contain all of the information we have requested.

Specifically, although it includes the total number of people granted 457 visas, it does not include the following data that we detailed in our initial request:

We look forward to receiving this data.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

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Our references: FA 17/04/00288; ADF2017/38167

Dear Mr Hudson

Thank you for your email. The Department will continue processing your
request as iterated in your email of 6 April 2017.

Request for an extension of time

Please be aware that the Department has seen a significant increase in the
number of FOI requests received by this agency. As a result there are
expected delays involved with the processing of FOI requests at the
present time. Generally, requests will be processed in the order that they
are received. The Department will endeavour to finalise your request as
quickly as possible.

For this reason the Department seeks your agreement under section 15AA of
the FOI Act to extend the timeframe for the processing of your request by
30 days.

It would assist the Department in managing its FOI caseload if you could
provide a response to this request by close of business, Thursday 4 May
2017.

Please do not hesitate to contact me should you wish to discuss.

Regards

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Services Division
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Hudson
[[2]mailto:[FOI #3350 email]]
Sent: Saturday, 29 April 2017 3:21 PM
To: FOI <[3][email address]>
Subject: RE: FOI request FA 17/04/00288 - Information regarding granting
of 457 visas [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Dear FOI,

Thank you for your earlier reply.

The data you have provided links to does not contain all of the
information we have requested.

Specifically, although it includes the total number of people granted 457
visas, it does not include the following data that we detailed in our
initial request:

The details we are seeking are:
· Descriptions of the roles that were filled · The wages that were / are
being paid · The market testing that was done to prove that local workers
were not available to fill the roles · The names of the Companies involved
and the number of 457 Visas they were granted

We look forward to receiving this data.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

-----Original Message-----

Good morning Mr Hudson

On 6 April 2017, the Department received a request from you for access to
documents relating to 457 Visas under the Freedom of Information Act 1982
(FOI Act).

You may be aware that an announcement has been made this week in relation
to the 457 Visa Program, details of which can be found here:
[4]http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/457-a...

I also note that data relating to the Temporary Work (Skilled) visa
(subclass 457) Programme is publicly available at the following link:
[5]http://www.data.gov.au/dataset/visa-temp...

This data relates to visas granted and visa holders, and includes
instructions on using Pivot Tables. The data is available for the
financial years 2010-2011 up to and including 31 December 2016.

In the circumstances, we would appreciate it if you could consider the
above together with the publicly available information at data.gov.au, and
confirm whether you wish to continue with your FOI request. If we do not
hear from you by COB Friday 28 April 2017 we will consider your request to
be withdrawn and closed.

If you wish to discuss, please do not hesitate to contact us at [DIBP
request email].

With kind regards
Freedom of Information Section
Freedom of Information, Privacy and Records Management Branch | Corporate
Support Division Department of Immigration and Border Protection
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Dear FOI,

Thank you for your continuing cooperation on this matter.

We are happy to agree to your request for N additional 30 days as allowed under Section 15AA of the FOI act.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson
President, ITPA

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Dear Mr Hudson

I write in respect of your FOI request of 6 April 2017.

This email is to advise you of my decision that you are liable to pay a
charge in respect of the processing of your FOI request in accordance with
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see the attached notice for further information.

Timeframe to respond

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Dear FOI,

Thank you for your recent correspondence.

ITPA has deposited $75 into the nominated bank account as per your instructions.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

Dear FOI,

As per your finding, ITPA has paid the required amount of money to cover the processing fee as per your determination.

Please confirm receipt of these funds, as well as a timeline for further responses to our request.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

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Dear Mr Hudson

Thank you for your email. I confirm the Department has received your payment.

Your correspondence through Right to Know is publicly accessible. The Department will not release your receipt to you at this email address in order to protect your personal privacy. Given this, could you please advise where you wish for the Department to send your receipt.

The current statutory due date for your FOI request is 6 June 2017. At this stage I am finalising consultations with relevant Departmental business areas and hope to provide you with a response in due course.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Hudson [mailto:[FOI #3350 email]]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:51 AM
To: FOI <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Processing of FOI Request – FA 17/04/00288 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Dear FOI,

As per your finding, ITPA has paid the required amount of money to cover the processing fee as per your determination.

Please confirm receipt of these funds, as well as a timeline for further responses to our request.

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

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Dear Mr Hudson

I write in respect of your FOI request of 6 April 2017.

This email is to advise you of my decision that you are liable to pay a charge in respect of the processing of your FOI request in accordance with section 29 of the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (the FOI Act). Please see the attached notice for further information.

Timeframe to respond

The FOI Act provides you with 30 days to respond, in writing, to this notice, which is Thursday, 15 June 2017.

The current statutory due date for your FOI request is 5 June 2017. In accordance with section 31 of the FOI Act the legislated processing time for your request is suspended from the date that you are deemed to have been notified of the charge. Please refer to the attached notice for further details, including advice on when the processing period for your request would resume.

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Dear FOI,

I'm happy to simply be told "yes, we received the funds" or "no, we haven't seen them yet."

A formal receipt is not required, though if you wish to provide one, please send to [email address]

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

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Dear Mr Hudson

Thank you - a receipt has been sent to [email address].

Regards

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From: Robert Hudson [mailto:[FOI #3350 email]]
Sent: Tuesday, 23 May 2017 11:22 AM
To: FOI <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Processing of FOI Request – FA 17/04/00288 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Dear FOI,

I'm happy to simply be told "yes, we received the funds" or "no, we haven't seen them yet."

A formal receipt is not required, though if you wish to provide one, please send to [email address]

Yours sincerely,

Robert Hudson

-----Original Message-----

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Thank you for your email. I confirm the Department has received your payment.

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Good morning Mr Hudson

I refer to your request dated 6 April 2017 for access to documents under the Freedom of Information Act 1982.

Please find attached the Department's decision in relation to this request, together with the relevant documents.

This request is now closed.

With kind regards
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Verity Pane left an annotation (June 27, 2017)

The agency's decision here raises some issues worth commenting on.

Parts 1 and 3 of the Applicant's FOI request were given a practical refusal reason by the agency s 24AA(1)(a)(i) - would substantially and unreasonably divert the resources of the agency from its other operations [it is disappointing the agency started that practical refusal opening with the phrase "unreasonable interference" which has a special adverse meaning in the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (Cth) (FOI Act) in s 89L(4) and should be used carefully by agency staff in correspondence].

Where a practical refusal reason is given, there are a couple of things an agency must have done beforehand, which on the face of it, does not seemed to have occurred here. These are:
* Consulted with the applicant first, before making such a decision (known as the "request consultation process"); and
* As part of the request consultation process, have provided the Applicant a breakdown of the time estimated for each stage in processing that aspect of the request (such by having an appropriate person sample a reasonable selection of relevant documents to give an accurate indication of the complexity and volume of activity required).

The resource impact of processing that aspect of the request would need to be substantial and unreasonable. While the FOI Act allows agencies to reasonably refuse "burdensome" elements, it is implicit in the objectives of the FOI Act that agencies must ensure that appropriate resources are allocated to dealing with FOI matters. This may include assigning additional temporary resources to handle a peak in the number or complexity of requests or to overcome inadequate administrative procedures. Poor record keeping or an inefficient filing system would not of themselves provide grounds for a claim that identifying or locating documents would be a substantial and unreasonable diversion of resources. Similarly, although a broadly worded request is more likely to constitute an unreasonable diversion of resources than a request that is narrowly focused, the fact that a large number of documents lies within the scope of a request may not be determinative if the documents can be easily identified, collated and assessed.

What is particularly confusing is that despite these claims made by the agency, the refusal is completed by making reference to s 24A(1) - Document does not exist. An agency may refuse a request if it has taken ‘all reasonable steps’ to find the document requested, and is satisfied that the document cannot be found or does not exist. This however directly contradicts the claim of the agency that "the data you have requested may exist within the Deoartment's computer systems".

It is important, when agencies are making FOI decisions, to give clear and unambiguous reasons, to justify their decisions. In this case, the agency has failed that requirement, and has clearly inferred multiple exemption reasons in a hasty grab-bag of a decision, in a way that is contrary to the FOI Act and its aims and objects.

On these grounds the refusal of Parts 1 and 3 of the Applicant's FOI request appear to be somewhat lacking. In giving reasons, agency staff such be careful on relying on claim alone, with substantive evidence of the reasonableness of such claims.

Parts 2 and 4 of the Applicant's FOI request were partially exempted on s 47E(d) - Certain Operations of an Agency. Section 47E(d) conditionally exempts documents where disclosure would, or could reasonably be expected to, prejudice or have a substantial adverse effect on the proper and efficient conduct of the operations of an agency. This exemption claim often seems most abused by agencies.

The term ‘substantial adverse effect’ requires an adverse effect which is sufficiently serious or significant to cause concern to a properly concerned reasonable person. The word ‘substantial’, taken in the context of substantial loss or damage, has been interpreted as ‘loss or damage that is, in the circumstances, real or of substance and not insubstantial or nominal’. There must be ‘real’ and ‘substantial’ grounds for expecting the damage to occur which can be supported by evidence or reasoning. A mere allegation or mere possibility of damage is insufficient to meet the ‘reasonable expectation’ test

Agencies should clearly describe the expected effect and its impact on the usual operations of the agency in the statement of reasons in order to show their deliberations in determining the extent of the expected effect. In this case, while there is some merit to the agency's position, its reasoning seems to lack some realistic proportionality.

DIBP has something of a checkered history with FOI. Instead of repeating past mistakes, it would be beneficial to ensure it's FOI management is improved.

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