AE24-038 Advice Provided to Minister on Release of Detainees on 8 November 2023
Dear Department of Home Affairs,
Under the FOI, I would like the advice provided to government referenced in Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary was to release the plaintiff". Give the department has already indicated what is not in the advice, what is in the advice.
Yours faithfully,
Oliver Smith
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FOI Request: FA 24/06/00292
File Number: FA24/06/00292
Dear Oliver Smith
I refer to your email dated 5 June 2024, in which you requested access to
documents held by the Department of Home Affairs (the Department) under
the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (the FOI Act).
You have requested access to the following:
Under the FOI, I would like the advice provided to government referenced
in Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being
provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High
Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary
was to release the plaintiff". Give the department has already indicated
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-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Smith <[FOI #11492 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2024 12:05 PM
To: FOI <[Department of Home Affairs request email]>
Subject: Freedom of Information request - AE24-038 Advice Provided to
Minister on Release of Detainees on 8 November 2023
Dear Department of Home Affairs,
Under the FOI, I would like the advice provided to government referenced
in Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being
provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High
Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary
was to release the plaintiff". Give the department has already indicated
what is not in the advice, what is in the advice.
Yours faithfully,
Oliver Smith
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Dear FOI,
Thanks for your email. To clarify I am seeking the advice provide to the Minister for Immigration sent after 8 November 2023 that indicates the course of action required in relation to the cohort of NZYQ detainees.
I draw your attention to the Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary was to release the plaintiff". Because this document demonstrates the department is prepared to say what is not in the advice, it reduces your credibility in citing legal priviledge if you were minded to deny this request.
Yours sincerely,
Oliver Smith
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Hello Oliver,
Thank you for your response to the Practical Refusal Notice.
Can we please further clarify and ask if your scope can be further revised
to the following:-
“The formal advice provided to Minister Giles, sent after 8 November 2023,
that indicated that the NZYQ High Court decision applied to other people
in the same circumstances.”
Please provide your response if you agree/disagree to the revised scope by
21 June 2024.
Kind Regards
David
Team Leader – Authorised FOI Officer, Freedom of Information
Position Number 60157647
Privacy, FOI and Records Management Branch
Legal Group
Department of Home Affairs
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From: Oliver Smith <[FOI #11492 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2024 10:41 AM
To: FOI <[Department of Home Affairs request email]>
Subject: Re: FA 24/06/00292 - Practical Refusal Notice - Due 21 June 2024
[SEC=OFFICIAL:Sensitive, ACCESS=Personal-Privacy]
Dear FOI,
Thanks for your email. To clarify I am seeking the advice provide to the
Minister for Immigration sent after 8 November 2023 that indicates the
course of action required in relation to the cohort of NZYQ detainees.
I draw your attention to the Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038,
which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being
provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High
Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary
was to release the plaintiff". Because this document demonstrates the
department is prepared to say what is not in the advice, it reduces your
credibility in citing legal priviledge if you were minded to deny this
request.
Yours sincerely,
Oliver Smith
-----Original Message-----
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In reply please quote:
FOI Request: FA 24/06/00292
File Number: FA24/06/00292
Dear Oliver Smith
I refer to your email dated 5 June 2024, in which you requested access to
documents held by the Department of Home Affairs (the Department) under
the Freedom of Information Act 1982 (the FOI Act).
You have requested access to the following:
Under the FOI, I would like the advice provided to government referenced
in Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being
provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High
Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary
was to release the plaintiff". Give the department has already indicated
what is not in the advice, what is in the advice.
Intention to refuse request
I am writing to advise you that I intend to refuse your request on the
basis that a practical refusal reason exists. However, before I make a
final decision to do this, you have an opportunity to revise your request
to remove the practical refusal reason. This is called a ‘request
consultation process’. You have 14 days to respond to this notice in one
of the ways set out below.
Power to refuse request
Section 24 of the FOI Act provides that if the Department is satisfied
that a practical refusal reason exists in relation to a request, the
Department must undertake a consultation process with you, and if, after
that consultation process, the Department remains satisfied that the
practical refusal reason still exists, the Department may refuse to give
you access to the documents subject to the request.
Practical refusal
A practical refusal reason exists under section 24AA of the FOI Act if
either (or both) of the following applies:
(1)(a)(i) the work involved in the processing of the request would
substantially and unreasonably divert the resources of the Department
from
its other operations
(1)(b) the request does not satisfy the requirement in section
15(2)(b) of the FOI Act, which requires you to provide such information
concerning the document you are seeking access to, to enable the
Department to be able to identify it.
I consider that the request does not satisfy the requirements of section
15(2)(b) of the FOI Act, and accordingly that practical refusal reasons
exist under section 24AA(1)(b) of the FOI Act.
Reasons for practical refusal
In order for your request to be valid for the purposes of the FOI Act, it
must provide such information concerning the documents that you are
seeking access to, as is reasonably necessary to enable the Department to
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Given the broad nature of the activities undertaken by the Department, I
do not consider that you have provided a reasonable description of the
documents to which you are seeking access.
As such, I am satisfied that your request is not valid and a practical
refusal reason exists in this request. You have not provided sufficient
information concerning the document you are seeking to access, to enable
the Department to be able to identify it.
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FOI
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the Department to identify those documents.
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you
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minimum, we will require advice as to which business areas might hold the
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may assist you with this.
In addition, you may wish to consider providing a timeframe for your
request to assist the Department’s officers to reasonably be able to
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You now have an opportunity to revise your request to ensure it is a
valid request under section 15(2)(b) of the FOI Act andto enable it to
proceed.
· Scope is unclear as to what is being requested – please clarify
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Dear FOI,
Thanks for the email, I agree to the suggested revised scope.
Yours sincerely,
Oliver Smith
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FOI Request: FA 24/06/00292
File Number: FA24/06/00292
Dear Oliver Smith
Acknowledgement of Freedom of Information Access request
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You have requested access to the following:
Revised Scope 12/06
The formal advice provided to Minister Giles, sent after 8 November 2023,
that indicated that the NZYQ High Court decision applied to other people
in the same circumstances.
Revised scope 11/06/2024
To clarify I am seeking the advice provide to the Minister for Immigration
sent after 8 November 2023 that indicates the course of action required in
relation to the cohort of NZYQ detainees.
I draw your attention to the Senate Estimates Question on Notice
AE24-038, which was published online in May 2024, which says: "There is no
record of advice being provided to the Government, following the making of
orders by the High Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for
Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that
the only response necessary was to release the plaintiff". Because this
document demonstrates the department is prepared to say what is not in the
advice, it reduces your credibility in citing legal privilege if you were
minded to deny this request.
Original Scope 05/06/2024
Under the FOI, I would like the advice provided to government referenced
in Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being
provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High
Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary
was to release the plaintiff". Give the department has already indicated
what is not in the advice, what is in the advice.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Smith <[FOI #11492 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2024 12:05 PM
To: FOI <[Department of Home Affairs request email]>
Subject: Freedom of Information request - AE24-038 Advice Provided to
Minister on Release of Detainees on 8 November 2023
Dear Department of Home Affairs,
Under the FOI, I would like the advice provided to government referenced
in Senate Estimates Question on Notice AE24-038, which was published
online in May 2024, which says: "There is no record of advice being
provided to the Government, following the making of orders by the High
Court on 8 November 2023 in NZYQ v Minister for Immigration, Citizenship
and Multicultural Affairs [2023] HCA 37, that the only response necessary
was to release the plaintiff". Give the department has already indicated
what is not in the advice, what is in the advice.
Yours faithfully,
Oliver Smith
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FOI Request: FA 24/06/00292
File Number: FA24/06/00292
Dear Oliver Smith,
I refer to your request received on 05 June 2024 for access to documents under the FOI Act.
The current due date for your request is 05 July 2024. The Department seeks your agreement under section 15AA of the FOI Act to extend the timeframe for the processing of your request by 30 days. This would extend the due date for your request to 05 August 2024.
The reason we are seeking an extension of time is due to demand for Departmental documents is high and we continue to experience increasing volumes of incoming requests particularly in recent months. Each request received by the Department is managed in the context of this large volume which can impact the timeliness of our decisions and as such we seek agreement from applicants on extensions of time where possible. We are endeavouring to ensure, as an applicant, you understand the likely timeframe for your request to be finalised. We continue to try to process requests as quickly as possible regardless of if an extension is provided.
If you could please provide a response to this request by close of business, 26 June 2024
Kind Regards,
David
Team Leader – Authorised FOI Officer, Freedom of Information
Position Number 60157647
Privacy, FOI and Records Management Branch
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Department of Home Affairs
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Dear Oliver Smith
FOI request FA 24/06/00292
I refer to your FOI request received on 5 June 2024, seeking access to the
following:
Revised Scope 12/06
The formal advice provided to Minister Giles, sent after 8 November 2023,
that indicated that the NZYQ High Court decision applied to other people
in the same circumstances.
The Department has made a decision on this request. Please find attached
the decision record.
This request has now been closed.
Kind regards
Tony
Position number: 60186973
Authorised FOI Officer | Freedom of Information
Privacy, FOI and Records Management Branch | Legal Group
Department of Home Affairs
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