Selective entry application fee revenue
Dear Queensland Department of Education and Training,
Could you please share the total revenue collected each year (2017-2022) by the DoE for selective entry application for enrolment fees? Could you please also share for each of these years, the total number of students enrolled in selective, fee-attracting educational programs and the total number of fee-attracting applications received in each year.
Yours faithfully,
Anonymous
Dear Queensland Department of Education and Training,
I note that your response is delayed. Could you please share this information with the fee-paying public?
Yours faithfully,
Anonymous
Dear Queensland Department of Education and Training,
Could you please respond to this request for information?
Yours faithfully,
Anonymous
Dear Queensland Department of Education and Training,
It has been three months since I made a request and I have received no response at all. Is the Department attempting to conceal this information?
Yours faithfully,
Anonymous
Good morning,
Thank you for your email requesting the following:
• the total revenue collected each year (2017-2022) by the DoE
for selective entry application for enrolment fees; and
• the total number of students enrolled in selective,
fee-attracting educational programs and the total number of fee-attracting
applications received in each of these years.
This request has been considered under the Department’s ‘Administrative
Access Scheme for Central Office and Regional Offices.’
I am advised the Department is unable to provide the requested information
as it is not currently segregated down to the level requested, and is
therefore not available centrally. I am advised information may be held at
a school level and you may contact individual schools to request this
information.
Alternatively, you can lodge a formal application under the Right to
Information Act 2009 (Qld). However given the number of Queensland
schools, the Department will consider whether the processing of a formal
application would require significant resources and considerable time to
complete, and therefore may refuse to deal with the application as to
process it would be a significant and unreasonable diversion of the
Department’s resources.
For further information regarding the right to information framework
including lodging an application under the Right to Information Act 2009
(Qld), I refer you to the online RTI portal -
[1]https://www.rti.qld.gov.au/
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [2][email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
-----Original Message-----
From: Anonymous <[FOI #10217 email]>
Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2023 8:30 PM
To: ADMINLAW, rti <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Right to Information request - Selective entry application
fee revenue
Dear Queensland Department of Education and Training,
It has been three months since I made a request and I have received no
response at all. Is the Department attempting to conceal this information?
Yours faithfully,
Anonymous
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Dear ADMINLAW, rti,
Thank you. I welcome the Department of Education to provide the information “unsegregated” and in any format it is currently accessible.
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
Good morning,
As previously advised, the information is not held centrally therefore I am unable to provide this to you. The information may be held at a school level, therefore you may contact individual schools to request the information.
Alternatively, you can lodge a formal application under the Right to Information Act 2009 (Qld), however as I advised, the Department will likely not be able to process such a voluminous application.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
-----Original Message-----
From: Anonymous <[FOI #10217 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2023 9:02 AM
To: ADMINLAW, rti <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Right to Information request - Selective entry application fee revenue
Dear ADMINLAW, rti,
Thank you. I welcome the Department of Education to provide the information “unsegregated” and in any format it is currently accessible.
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
-----Original Message-----
Good morning,
Thank you for your email requesting the following:
• the total revenue collected each year (2017-2022) by the DoE
for selective entry application for enrolment fees; and
• the total number of students enrolled in selective,
fee-attracting educational programs and the total number of fee-attracting
applications received in each of these years.
This request has been considered under the Department’s ‘Administrative
Access Scheme for Central Office and Regional Offices.’
I am advised the Department is unable to provide the requested information
as it is not currently segregated down to the level requested, and is
therefore not available centrally. I am advised information may be held at
a school level and you may contact individual schools to request this
information.
Alternatively, you can lodge a formal application under the Right to
Information Act 2009 (Qld). However given the number of Queensland
schools, the Department will consider whether the processing of a formal
application would require significant resources and considerable time to
complete, and therefore may refuse to deal with the application as to
process it would be a significant and unreasonable diversion of the
Department’s resources.
For further information regarding the right to information framework
including lodging an application under the Right to Information Act 2009
(Qld), I refer you to the online RTI portal -
[1]https://www.rti.qld.gov.au/
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [2][email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
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Dear ADMINLAW, rti,
Are you suggesting that schools do not have to report on their finances to central or regional offices? How does the Department collate statewide school financial data for their annual report?
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
Good morning,
No, that is not what I am suggesting. I am advising you that the specific information that you have requested (i.e. the total revenue for selective entry applications) is not held centrally. As previously advised, should you require this information you may request it from individual schools.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
-----Original Message-----
From: Anonymous <[FOI #10217 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2023 5:01 PM
To: ADMINLAW, rti <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Right to Information request - Selective entry application fee revenue
Dear ADMINLAW, rti,
Are you suggesting that schools do not have to report on their finances to central or regional offices? How does the Department collate statewide school financial data for their annual report?
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
-----Original Message-----
Good morning,
As previously advised, the information is not held centrally therefore I am unable to provide this to you. The information may be held at a school level, therefore you may contact individual schools to request the information.
Alternatively, you can lodge a formal application under the Right to Information Act 2009 (Qld), however as I advised, the Department will likely not be able to process such a voluminous application.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
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Dear ADMINLAW, rti,
Can you please confirm whether or not individual schools report revenue from selective program application fees to the central office in their financial reports?
If the barrier is that I have requested a total then I welcome the DoE to provide financial reports which have been submitted to central office rather than to provide totals. You can narrow the search to the Qld Academy Schools, Brisbane State High, Brisbane South State Secondary College, Corinda State High and Indooroopilly State High.
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
Good afternoon,
I have spoken further with the Department's Finance Division regarding your below email. I am advised that the Department holds 'Budget Overview Reports' centrally, however these only provide total revenue in summary only. They do not list revenue by individual school. To determine individual school's revenue, you would need to either seek this information directly from the schools in question, or submit a Right to Information application.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
-----Original Message-----
From: Anonymous <[FOI #10217 email]>
Sent: Thursday, 10 August 2023 10:26 AM
To: ADMINLAW, rti <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Right to Information request - Selective entry application fee revenue
Dear ADMINLAW, rti,
Can you please confirm whether or not individual schools report revenue from selective program application fees to the central office in their financial reports?
If the barrier is that I have requested a total then I welcome the DoE to provide financial reports which have been submitted to central office rather than to provide totals. You can narrow the search to the Qld Academy Schools, Brisbane State High, Brisbane South State Secondary College, Corinda State High and Indooroopilly State High.
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
-----Original Message-----
Good morning,
No, that is not what I am suggesting. I am advising you that the specific information that you have requested (i.e. the total revenue for selective entry applications) is not held centrally. As previously advised, should you require this information you may request it from individual schools.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
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Dear COLE, Caroline,
Do these budget overviews include total revenue collected from selective school / excellence program application fees?
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
Dear COLE, Caroline,
My apologies. Please ignore my last message. I misunderstood part of your message. One final question, does "held centrally" include information reported to Regional Offices?
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
Good morning,
Yes that is correct - by 'central' I meant both central office and regional offices.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
-----Original Message-----
From: Anonymous <[FOI #10217 email]>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 August 2023 9:56 PM
To: COLE, Caroline <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Right to Information request - Selective entry application fee revenue
Dear COLE, Caroline,
My apologies. Please ignore my last message. I misunderstood part of your message. One final question, does "held centrally" include information reported to Regional Offices?
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
-----Original Message-----
Good afternoon,
I have spoken further with the Department's Finance Division regarding your below email. I am advised that the Department holds 'Budget Overview Reports' centrally, however these only provide total revenue in summary only. They do not list revenue by individual school. To determine individual school's revenue, you would need to either seek this information directly from the schools in question, or submit a Right to Information application.
Kind Regards,
Caroline Cole
A/Manager, Information Release
Legal Services Branch
Department of Education
P: (07) 3513 5862
E: [email address]
Level 22 | Education House | 30 Mary Street | Brisbane QLD 4000
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Dear DoE,
Given this information is not held by regional offices, this means that schools don’t report this specific data point and the Department has no oversight of the fees and revenue individual schools are collecting through selective entry applications. I believe the amount is well into the millions each year. Excess parent funds are being expended without any transparency. Parents are paying fees $80-500) to gain enrolment into state schools with no accountability or transparency.
I take it that the DoE is withholding this information and has denied this request.
Yours sincerely,
Anonymous