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s47F
To:
s47F
Subject:
FW: Hobart Airspace Proposals [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Date:
Friday, 23 November 2018 7:18:28 AM
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Thanks
Stephen
From: s47F
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Date: Thursday, 22 Nov 2018, 16:13
To: s47F
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jetstar.com>,
s47F
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Subject: RE: Hobart Airspace Proposals [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Dear s47F
Thank you for your support in this process and your comprehensive response. We acknowledge
your concerns regarding the timing of the proposed changes.
Kind Regards
s47F
ATC Line Manager
Airservices Australia
PO Box 1093 Tullamarine VIC 3043
s47F
@airservicesaustralia.com
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Subject: Hobart Airspace Proposals
Dear s47F
Thank you for the briefing on the 9th of November regarding Hobart flight procedure and
airspace change proposals, which was attended for Jetstar by s47F
We have
considered what was presented and have taken into account previous discussions and
briefings on this topic.
We are reasonably pleased with the proposal of the eastern tracks (Option 5) with the
required airspace change, shortened RNAV APCH, and new RNP-AR/Visual arrival option.
This offers efficient descent and arrivals particularly for RWY30, something which has been
inefficient since the previous change in 2017. Couple that with SID designs offering
unrestricted climbs and separation from non-jet traffic and inbound arrivals, this package
seems like a reasonable proposal.
One issue however is with regards to the comments made about the time to implement
these changes.
It was stated in the most recent briefing that this would be dependent on the airspace
change to the North East, which at the earliest could be expected in November 2019. The
previous briefing in August (outlining five potential options as well as the potential airspace
changes) stated that March 2019 would be targeted for ‘as much as possible’ even without
any airspace changes. This was also re-iterated in a conversation (with s47F
) on 24th
October, where it was mentioned that the intention was to implement RNP-AR at the same
time as the rest of the changes, targeted in March. Concern was raised specifically about
this with regards to promising to deliver RNP-AR as well as the SID/STAR changes in such a
short time frame, and the offer was made that we could assist with RNP-AR designs (via third
party) to help reduce workload. The response given was that this work was already
underway.
It is disappointing that the briefing on 9th November has now indicated no intention to
deliver any significant change in March 2019, and that at least November 2019 is now the
targeted date for implementation.
It has been pointed out previously that changes introduced to Hobart procedures (without
consultation) in 2017 significantly reduced efficiency, at great cost to operators. This
removed all flexibility for visual arrivals or the previously QF Group proposed RNP-AR
implementation. It is expected that an acceptable design solution should be prioritised. A
phased implementation was suggested previously, and again we suggest this option be
seriously considered. This is an option that would see phased implementation in March 2019,
and then further changes with airspace revision in November 2019.
Also discussed was the Western route option which was unanimously rejected by industry.
Issues stated include forcing aviation traffic toward terrain rich environments (increasing CFIT
risk), associated turbulence due to terrain (an aircraft controllability concern with severe
turbulence a high possibility), typically worse weather build up associated with terrain (due
to orographic uplift), low efficiency due extended track miles for RWY 30 and in particular no
option for RNP-AR or visual arrivals, potential mix of Jet RPT traffic and GA traffic due to GA
training areas, further community issues with now flying over areas previously not overflown
by jet traffic, and this option will rely quite significantly on a major airspace change in the
south west quadrant to be approved with potential to even further delay any
implementation far beyond November 2019.
As Operators have been forced to absorb the inefficiencies due to the 2017 procedure
changes, we would appreciate every effort being made to implement proposed efficiency
changes as soon as possible (even if staged) and to definitely avoid the western route
option for both clear safety and operational reasons.
Kind regards,
s47F
Senior Manager Flying Operations (Fleet Operations & Regulatory Affairs)
Flying Operations
Jetstar Airways
s47F
s47F
@jetstar.com
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